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	<title>Comments on: ColdFusion ORM : Troubleshooting &#8211; &#8216;Lazy&#8217; does not work</title>
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		<title>By: ontohyposaush</title>
		<link>http://www.rupeshk.org/blog/index.php/2009/07/coldfusion-orm-troubleshooting-lazy-does-not-work/comment-page-1/#comment-728</link>
		<dc:creator>ontohyposaush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tender thanks you championing details. It helped me in my mission</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tender thanks you championing details. It helped me in my mission</p>
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		<title>By: CauffFlalmTof</title>
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		<dc:creator>CauffFlalmTof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeh right.. great post, Thank You</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeh right.. great post, Thank You</p>
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		<title>By: viagra</title>
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		<dc:creator>viagra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gratefulness you for your dope and it helped me in preparing my college assignment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gratefulness you for your dope and it helped me in preparing my college assignment.</p>
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		<title>By: Hemant Khandelwal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hemant Khandelwal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 04:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Another way is to use the event handler&quot;

I guess you have another idea for a blog entry :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Another way is to use the event handler&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess you have another idea for a blog entry <img src='http://www.rupeshk.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Devin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Figured there was a much more simple way that I couldn&#039; think of.  Thanks for the tip!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Figured there was a much more simple way that I couldn&#8217; think of.  Thanks for the tip!</p>
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		<title>By: Rupesh Kumar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rupesh Kumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Devin,
That is one way. You can read the logged sql and see if the sql to load the lazy objects are being called. But thats not such a nice way.
Another way is to use the event handler - You can enable the event handler and write the preLoad methods in the related class. When you just load the object without accessing the lazy properties, if the preLoad() method gets called for the related objects, it would mean that the related object is getting loaded immediately and lazy is not working.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Devin,<br />
That is one way. You can read the logged sql and see if the sql to load the lazy objects are being called. But thats not such a nice way.<br />
Another way is to use the event handler &#8211; You can enable the event handler and write the preLoad methods in the related class. When you just load the object without accessing the lazy properties, if the preLoad() method gets called for the related objects, it would mean that the related object is getting loaded immediately and lazy is not working.</p>
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		<title>By: Devin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question for you – how will you know that lazy is working or not?

Can&#039;t say that I have an answer, but I&#039;d love to know! Would it involve reading the logged SQL to see what data was queried? Seems like any available CFML code to &quot;look&quot; at the object (such as cfdump) &#039;causes the lazy data to be loaded before you have the chance to look at it.

So I guess I&#039;ve just always trusted that the data was actually lazy. But after reading your entry I can see how it would be important to double check things like that.

So what&#039;s the answer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question for you – how will you know that lazy is working or not?</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t say that I have an answer, but I&#8217;d love to know! Would it involve reading the logged SQL to see what data was queried? Seems like any available CFML code to &#8220;look&#8221; at the object (such as cfdump) &#8217;causes the lazy data to be loaded before you have the chance to look at it.</p>
<p>So I guess I&#8217;ve just always trusted that the data was actually lazy. But after reading your entry I can see how it would be important to double check things like that.</p>
<p>So what&#8217;s the answer?</p>
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